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Slimy Worm Cyan Wolf	Posted - 2010.07.31 23:32:00 - [1] Edited by: Slimy Worm on 31/07/2010 23:34:45 There's an unenforced exploit where players join NPC corps, or form new shadow corps, to get out of wardecs. They immediately rejoin their old corp when the war ends. A simple way to fix is to make players who were at war at the time of the wardec remain at war for a week even if their new corporation isn't at war. Something similar can be used on corps that leave their alliance to avoid a wardec: Corps who leave their alliance while it is at war will remain valid war targets for a week without the need to re-declare war.
Slimy Worm Quantum Kinetics	Posted - 2010.08.01 17:13:00 - [2] Edited by: Slimy Worm on 01/08/2010 17:16:29 Originally by: Bhattran No. Pick on people who want to fight, or better yet go somewhere like lowsec or 00 where war decs don't mean crap. gb2wowkthxbai Also post with your main Originally by: Goose99 If you make rich carebears who know they can join NPC corps instead of paying extortion money targets of constant hazing that they can get away from, they will lose ISK but still be able to play the game. Fixed for you
Slimy Worm Quantum Kinetics	Posted - 2010.08.01 17:52:00 - [3] Edited by: Slimy Worm on 01/08/2010 17:52:43 Originally by: ThisIsNotMyAlt not supported people have a right to personally evade wars with other players. if you wardec a corp where the majority of the players leave it afterwards then clearly you have choosen to wardec a corp that is not in the constitution of fighting back. also the statement that "eve is a pvp game" is not entirely correct. eve is a sandbox style universe "simulator" that covers many aspects including pve and pvp. They can pay extortion money or hire mercs if the don't want to fight. Instead, they usually corp hop and get NPC's (CONCORD) to protect them for free while they amass ISK with almost no risk in high sec.
Slimy Worm Quantum Kinetics	Posted - 2010.08.01 18:17:00 - [4] Originally by: ARandom Alt So you wardec a corp, and people leave the corp. Too bad. You wardecced a corp, not a player. If you want to kill a specific player, you can kill them regardless of if you are at war or not. Any ship will pop if you bring a few friends to suicide gank them. Even their nice faction BS or marauder will go down to a coordinated gank. However, you appear unwilling to consider options like that, as it would require effort and coordination. It seems you aren't necessarily looking for fights as much as cheap kills. I know, I do this a lot. It takes only three or four artillery BS's to kill a Kronos.
Slimy Worm Quantum Kinetics	Posted - 2010.08.01 19:44:00 - [5] Originally by: chatgris Originally by: Bhattran No. Pick on people who want to fight, or better yet go somewhere like lowsec or 00 where war decs don't mean crap. This. There's a popular MMO that has PvE and PvP realms.
Slimy Worm Quantum Kinetics	Posted - 2010.08.01 19:51:00 - [6] Edited by: Slimy Worm on 01/08/2010 19:56:14 Originally by: Battle Mage Edited by: Battle Mage on 01/08/2010 19:47:30 Originally by: Slimy Worm There's a popular MMO that has PvE and PvP realms. Yes, and so as EvE has both pvp and pve content. Not supported. "Eve has PvE and PvP content, therefore people should be able to corp hop to avoid wardecs" makes absolutely no sense. Reread your post, because you're essentially arguing that the existence of PvE content proves that people should be able to opt-out of wardecs instead of paying mercs, paying extortion, or fighting.
Slimy Worm Quantum Kinetics	Posted - 2010.08.01 20:28:00 - [7] Originally by: ThisIsNotMyAlt Originally by: Slimy Worm "Eve has PvE and PvP content, therefore people should be able to corp hop to avoid wardecs" makes absolutely no sense. Reread your post, because you're essentially arguing that the existence of PvE content proves that people should be able to opt-out of wardecs instead of paying mercs, paying extortion, or fighting. What you are missing is that the peopble that can "hop to avoid wardecs" already do pay a price for this ability: The IMMENSE profitability difference between highsec and lowsec/0.0/wspace. There is no reason why ontop of that they should have to pay another price in form of paying mercs etc.. I'll bite. Highsec is more profitable for most players (excluding people who can solo sanctums, miners in nullsec systems where very few neutrals roam, and a few other players like ones who can safely rat in NPC sov or good truesec 0.0) than lowsec, nullsec, or w-space because there's almost zero risk. Sure, you might make more per hour ratting in good truesec, but you also have to defend that space which takes time (and ISK if you lose your ship) and you're usually making next to nothing while flying in defensive fleets. You'll also lose a ratting ship every so often, even if you watch local. The absence of actually having to spend time defending yourself in highsec makes it more profitable, for most players, than lowsec, nullsec, or w-space.
Slimy Worm Quantum Kinetics	Posted - 2010.08.02 02:39:00 - [8] Originally by: Vherkin Slimy, you know that most of the wardec in-sec are not monetary in mind? Most of them will accept no money and just want to kill people who can't fight back for the lulz. Hell, i can't count anymore the number of time corporation with close to nothing got war-dec without reason because they offered target. You want to remove the only means to people for playing simply because you want thing more easy while you already have an option to kill the one who really worth it. Worse, you would not achieve your end anyway because they would simply stay in a npc corp. ****, if is was not because of that i would be actually for it because rich carebear are not the only one who abuse that option. I helped a corp who got war-dec and when the attacker saw us coming what they did ? They hided in a npc corp. They only wanted easy target to ransom, not real fight. They still have the option to hire mercs (a lot corps will fight for free if you pay the dec fee) or fight the war-deccers themselves.
Slimy Worm Cyan Wolf	Posted - 2010.08.03 17:49:00 - [9] Originally by: Arkanor Edited by: Arkanor on 02/08/2010 11:19:59 Originally by: Slimy Worm They still have the option to hire mercs (a lot corps will fight for free if you pay the dec fee) or fight the war-deccers themselves. 1. I haven't been in the trade, but I don't know many/any "mercenaries" that fight for free. It's usually ex-pirates or nullsec pvp'ers that have become mercs but need to build a name for their new banner.

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